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the ASD launch is in a wind shadow.
I helped Jamie/ASD teach a beginner class there once and had a hard time
waterstarting (so I uphauled on the large boards). It was easy to
waterstart once you got down to the swimming area.
>
> Thanks for the info. What about Crown beach in Alameda and Sherman
> island? I hear both places have shallow areas that are good to learn
> waterstarts.
>
> Also, I wonder how many of these places have rental shops close to
> them in case you need a different sail or a board. I know that
> Coyote has ASD. I guess Coyote can be okay to learn waterstarts
> after all if you stay close to the shore?
>
> Dmitri
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis [mailto:wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis]On
> > Behalf Of Kirk Lindstrom
> > Sent: Friday, July 31, 1998 7:30 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list
> > Subject: Re: Best place to practice waterstarts
> >
> >
> > I would suggest that Coyote Pt is the WORST place to learn waterstarts.
> >
> > This yr, the wind has often been dead inside. I went there from
> > Shoreline after I'd done a few waterstarts and it was awful as people
> > say "rig 5oh" as it is blowing 22 outside and yet it is only 6-12
> > inside. You often get swells inside from the outside wind and yet not
> > enough wind for even us oldies to get a waterstart until we get a puff.
> >
> > Where I really learned was at San Luis where you can walk back upwind
> > still in the water. Only later did I hear of 3rd Ave... Third, when the
> > tide is right is also great as you can walk all the way to the channel
> > so you can stand for waterstarts in both directions and not worry about
> > tides bringing you downwind as you get your sail in position.
> >
> > Haskens for Flying Tigers would be good as I liked Tigers old launch due
> > to high wind and the ability to stand and rest on either side of the
> > small inlet. Water is Flat there which is nice too. Great for learning
> > waterstarts.
> >
> > Candlestick is good if you start way upwind as you can always swim your
> > board in if you get blown downwind and walk it back. Just be careful to
> > measure how fast you can swim your gear in (don't derig) vs how far you
> > get blown downwind.
> >
> > Crisy often sucks for waterstart learning just like Coyote due to large
> > wind shadow near shore.
> >
> > I'd get Rhonda Smith's or one of the Gorge school's (I forget)
> > waterstart video....The high wind waterstart one is great for teaching
> > waterstarting at Coyote and 3rd with the swell/chop
> >
> > Good Luck!
> > Kirk out
> >
> > ASD epoxy: 8'8" & 9' RKT & 9'6" no-nose CS, F2 Xantos285
> > Wt 230#, Ht. 6'0", Usually sail on SF Bay, Cailf.
> > kirk_lindstrom@sj.hp.com-DeleteThis
> >
> > >
> > > Dmitri Medvedev wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone suggest a good location to practice waterstarts?
> > > > I just learned how to waterstart in the ABK camp but we didn't
> > > > have enough wind the next day for me to successfully waterstart
> > > > once (I had a small rental sail). I guess an ideal waterstart
> > > > location should be shallow so that you can clear the sail more
> > > > easily to focus more on the technique. Thanks,
> > >
> > > I would suggest Coyote Point. It has a large sand beach and usually
> > > you get enough wind on the beach to waterstart. You can just
> > > walk a bit along the beach to get up-wind, the water is quite warm
> > > too.
> > >
> > > But, please DO NOT do this in the launch area, move to the left or
> > > to the right part of the beach.
> > >
> > > Have fun
> > >
> > > Vladimir
> >
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