Re: better interaction between kiters and windsurfers at 3rd

From: Allen H Zimmermann (allen.zimmermann@gte.net-DeleteThis.com)
Date: Thu Aug 30 2001 - 20:04:30 PDT

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From: "Allen H Zimmermann" <allen.zimmermann@gte.net-DeleteThis.com>
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Subject: Re: better interaction between kiters and windsurfers at 3rd
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:04:30 -0700

What does the \223 mean????
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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:05 PM
Subject: better interaction between kiters and windsurfers at 3rd

>
> Dear 3rd ave colleagues -- I had two experiences at 3rd that highlight my
> growing concern about the interaction between kiters and windsurfers.
> Yesterday, I sailed out at warp speed toward the channel and about 50
yards
> or so before reaching the channel I noticed a kiter just upwind from me.
He
> jibed hard right directly -- and I mean directly in front of me -- close
> enough that he reached out to touch or maybe avoid my sail -- a few feet
from
> me. Then he apologized with a nice UK accent '\223 anybody want to take
credit?
> About 30 min later, I was again heading at warp speed about 1/3 of the way
to
> the channel marker and another kiter jumps upwind and gets huge air --
maybe
> 20ft flying directly over me -- landed down wind and gave me the Hawaiian
> hang loose sign. I considered but did not return a hand gesture of my own
> since I was having too much fun to ruin my Karma.
>
> Now this comes after Mark Bonner got jumped over near the ramp and Rich
took
> a direct kite hit 2 weeks ago. My view is that a windsurfer can sail
within
> about 20 ft and I don't care if he impales himself in his mast doing a
trick
> or just being a rookie -- I don't need to depend on his/her skill for
> ensuring my life and limb. In the case of kiters, I have to make the
> judgement that he/she is good enough that I can sail within 75-100 ft
(lines
> may even be longer) and avoid being closelined or kamakozeed. Now since
many
> of my best windsurfing friends are crossing over to partime/fulltime
kiters,
> I want to find a way for all of us to get along without moving toward Maui
> situation in which the communities are segregated. One more serious
incident
> like the one to Rich or worse could cause such a scenario.
>
> Given this situation, I think that the kiters need to recognize that each
one
> utilizes potentially a considerable larger amount of water area resource
than
> a windsurfer and that we (or at least me) are not interested in being
target
> practice or hurdle markers. I believe we can make this work. Since my
> cross-over sailing (now kiting) buddies are all nice folks I am hoping
that
> the kiters can get together a bit and talk among themselves about how to
> improve this situation. I would welcome any suggestions for things that
> windsurfers can do as well to help.
>
> Now while I am ranting and raving '\223 the parking situation at 3rd is
getting
> out of control with the lot full back to the light on a weekend. The only
> way for it to be manageable is to maintain a short term rig drop off area
> near the front of the lot. In recent weeks, some folks have taken to
parking
> there as there personal space when the lot is full. Friends, if you come
late
> '\223 drop off your gear up front and then park in the back like everyone
else.
> If not, it becomes unmanageable and we also run the risk of getting
> cross-wise with the fire/police'\246.. everyone is special '\223 please be
> considerate. The person you piss off is likely to be one of your friends
or
> one of your ex-friends'\246. Now let's shred! Mark.
>
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Mark Tischler
> email: MRTischler@aol.com-DeleteThis.com
> phone: 408-749-9285
> fax: 408-749-9602
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>

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