RE: fun fun fun

From: rossb@WellsFargo.COM-DeleteThis.com
Date: Mon Jun 25 2001 - 14:00:51 PDT


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Subject: RE: fun fun fun
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:00:51 -0700
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Mike Zajicek made me an 8'6" almost 24" wide freestyle board with about 92
liters. This board jibes easier than any I've ever ridden, and I've ridden
a lot of boards (50 maybe). The rocker is perfect--it planes without the
drag I was experiencing with my JP freestyle of about the same volume and
shape. (My JP had to be powered to oblivion before the drag coeficient was
acceptable to me.) I've had the Mike's Lab out in some nasty water with my
4.2 and it did just fine. I agree that the fin makes a big difference. I
think you give up a lot of speed when you go wide (board width) but speed is
not what freestyle is about.

Cindoll

-----Original Message-----
From: Booker C. Bense [mailto:bbense@networking.stanford.edu-DeleteThis.com]
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 11:38 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list WIND_TALK
Subject: Re: fun fun fun

On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Erik Eiseman wrote:

> Wanted to get off the topic of breakdowns and hit a few randoms.
>
>
> 4. Does anyone here sail with a 100L JP board? Can a 100L board be
> at all slashy? I would love to sail my 85L (I'm 180lbs.)board but
> need more. My 95L BIC sucks. This is a good topic worth
> discussing. All those 85L bay sailing boards are great but the
> ability to explore is somewhat lost.
>

- Well, a 100l board is never going to slash like an 85L board, but I
think the fin has more to do with it than the volume. It's hard to
find a fin that will both get you upwind and slash when you get there.
Also, the earlier a fin planes the less slashy it tends to be. I have
a really old fat 11' Dill fin that I retrofitted for a tuttle box. It
goes upwind pretty well, is really slashy, but very slow compared more
modern fins.

- The other variable is board design, this has changed alot in recent
years. It used to be that anything above 100L was "slalom-like"
and focused on speed rather than slash. I'd really like to
try some of the new "freestyle" boards in the 100L-110L range.
I demo'd the ASD Mutant a few years ago and with the right fin
that could be a pretty "slashy" board, but it was still a compromise
between turning and speed. I think you could make a 100l board
that would slash very well, but I don't know if anybody is
making one.

- Booker C. Bense



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