RE: Seal Point Meeting Report (Oct 7)

From: Martyn, Rick (RZM1@pge.com-DeleteThis)
Date: Fri Oct 08 1999 - 12:32:10 PDT


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From: "Martyn, Rick" <RZM1@pge.com-DeleteThis>
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Subject: RE: Seal Point Meeting Report (Oct 7)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:32:10 -0700 
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I thought the salt ponds were for speedsailing... : )

Is Luigi still around?

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> Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 12:14 PM
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> Subject: Re: Seal Point Meeting Report (Oct 7)
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> Local Sierra Club chapters can be really out to lunch compared to the what
> the
> typical member of the national organization would think. In Albany they
> are
> opposing bike lanes. In berkely they wanted to turn the landfill, which is
> now a
> park, into a bird santuary. Too many people; not enough space, I guess.
> The
> point should be made to these folks that garbage dumps built on former
> tide
> lands are never going to be what was lost. Since they are surrounded on
> all
> sides by people, the highest and best use is environmentally sensitive
> recreation e.g., Windsurfing.
>
> Let um get those salt ponds for the birds!
>
> -Tom
>
> George Haye wrote:
>
> > SEAL POINT PARK, SAN MATEO
> > The Public Meeting regarding Seal Point went well tonight. We've got a
> new
> > windsurf spot in the works between Third Avenue and Coyote Point, and
> things
> > are going smoothly.
> >
> > One windsurfer spoke (that same person is typing this report), and
> another
> > windsurfer was in attendance and turned in written comments (Charles
> Blade.)
> > Not a large turnout, but this was a preliminary meeting, so the small
> > turnout was perfect, actually. The next meeting where San Mateo resident
> > windsurfers can really help by attending and speaking will be in a month
> or
> > two, or three.
> >
> > The Sierra Club spokesperson spoke first and opposed almost everything
> in
> > the Shoreline Plan including the parking on top of the hill which is
> > critical for windsurfing access. She instead suggested a small cart be
> > provided, and parking only be allowed on weekends on J. Hart Clinton
> > Drive/Third Avenue itself. Windsurfers could then take turns using the
> cart
> > to push their gear one at a time all the way around the landfill hill to
> the
> > launch ramp.
> >
> > I spoke shortly thereafter (she left right away, actually), and I
> mentioned
> > that I am a very active Sierra Club member and that the Sierra Club
> position
> > on this issue does not represent all members of the Sierra Club, and in
> fact
> > the parking on top of the hill is absolutely required for windsurfing.
> The
> > idea of the cart and parking on Third Avenue might sound OK if you have
> > never tried windsurfing, but it will simply not work for windsurfers [it
> > would take 30 minutes per person to cart the gear the distance of about
> 1
> > mile each way, so the majority of windsurfers sleeping in line would not
> get
> > a chance to sail until after sundown!]. I told the entire audience that
> as a
> > windsurfer and Sierra Club member I am quite happy with the plans as
> they
> > currently stand [the current layout is as good as we could have hoped
> for,
> > considering the geography of the landfill].
> >
> > I spoke with the planner after the meeting, and it is clear that the
> City
> > does NOT want parking on weekends to take up one lane of the freeway
> known
> > as Third Avenue / J. Hart Clinton Drive. And, he told me not to worry
> about
> > the hill-top parking lot at this point. The Sierra Club opposed
> everything
> > in the plans (fishing, mountain biking, dog park for small dogs, dog
> park
> > for large dogs, etc.) and it is unlikely that they will get much of what
> > they want -- since the City and City residents want windsurfing,
> fishing,
> > mountain biking, and a dog park, etc.
> >
> > NOTE: The Sierra Club is a close ally of ours for the SFO battle, so
> it's
> > kind of interesting how we're at odds at Seal Point. Oh well.
> >
> > Is anyone on this list a Sierra Club Loma Prieta Chapter member? If so,
> you
> > could call the office and tell them you are a Chapter member and you
> > strongly support the plans for the full parking lot on the top of the
> hill
> > at Seal Point Park. Windsurfing access is badly needed in the area, San
> > Mateo residents want windsurfing access at the Park, and parking allows
> > access to the environment which promotes environmental awareness...
> >
> > -George
> >
> > PS: Wind Report: I couldn't go out, but the wind was decent at Coyote
> Point
> > late this afternoon (Thursday). 15-18 Knots gusting to 20, with an ebb.
> A
> > few out jamming on floaty boards.
> >
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