Re: Collision

From: Tim Roberts (robertst@slip.net-DeleteThis)
Date: Wed Sep 17 1997 - 21:52:44 PDT


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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:52:44 -0700
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From: Tim Roberts <robertst@slip.net-DeleteThis>
Subject: Re: Collision

I also believe leeward sailors have right of way over upwind, assuming an
overlap and the leeward sailor is not ahead of the windward. With
sailboats there is a mast abeam rule concerning this, but I'm not sure how
it applies to windsurfers.

Tim.

>On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, HAL TANGEN wrote:
>
>>
>> Ok so I've been windsurfing hard for 7 years in all sorts of
>> challenging conditions and crowded sites but a collision? I'm very
>> cautious when I turn. I look all around me everytime. I never want
>> to turn into someone but that's exactly what happened to me.
>>
>>
>> The jibing sailor claimed no responsibility and was confident that
>> since he was the upwind sailor he had the right of way. He said that
>> it should've been the leeward sailors responsibility to avoid
>> anything that comes from windward and therefor I was at fault.
>
>- Rule 1: Boats are not cars... You never have the "Right of way"
> The only "right" you have is to continue on your course while
> the other sailor avoids you. If there was something you could
> have done to avoid the accident you're at fault.
>
>- Rule 2: If you can see it, it is your responsiblity to avoid it.
>
>- Rule 3: If your right hand is near the mast, keep your course
> and let the guy on the opposite tack manouver around you.
>>
>> So my question: Two sailors are on starboard reach. Without looking
>> the upwind sailor jibes directly in front of the downwind sailor.
>> The downwind sailor having not seen the upwind sailor initiate his
>> jibe did not have time to react and ran into the side of the jibing
>> sailor.
>
>>
>> Who's at fault?
>>
>
>- Everybody, but the most blame lies with the jibing sailor. You have
>no "rights" while jibing regardless of the tack you are on. Since
>downwind sailors don't have eyes in the back of their head, it's the
>upwind sailors responsiblity to avoid them.
>
>
>> I appreciate any comments. Thanks.
>>
>
>- I have a really good book on this stuff "Racing Rules for
>BoardSailors". Likely out of print, but it explains all this
>stuff very well.
>
>- Booker C. Bense



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