X-OldHeader: From jmilum@yahoo.com-DeleteThis.com Thu Feb 12 14:36:48 2004 Return-Path: <jmilum@yahoo.com-DeleteThis.com> Received: from opus.labs.agilent.com (root@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com [130.29.244.179]) by jr.labs.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_25183+JAGae58098)/8.9.3 AgilentLabs Workstation) with ESMTP id OAA27171 for <wind_talk_ls@jr.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from msgbas2x.cos.agilent.com ([192.168.148.34]) by opus.labs.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_25183+JAGae58098)/8.9.3 AgilentLabs Workstation) with ESMTP id OAA26834 for <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from web9708.mail.yahoo.com (web9708.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.128.166]) by msgbas2x.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BC1DC6C59 for <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com>; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:36:47 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20040212223647.17298.qmail@web9708.mail.yahoo.com-DeleteThis.com> Received: from [64.169.70.9] by web9708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:36:47 PST Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:36:47 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Milum <jmilum@yahoo.com-DeleteThis.com> Subject: Re: Board opinion To: wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com In-Reply-To: <20040212210211.25792.qmail@web60409.mail.yahoo.com-DeleteThis.com>
I haven't been sailing in the gorge lately, but spent 2 summers
there before moving here. IMHO Crissy is WAY choppier than the
Gorge. I think that the Columbia's currents are way less complex
than the craziness that is Crissy and this results in a lot smoother
water than Crissy. I can't ever remember hearing the term 'voodoo
chop' in the Gorge which is obviously very common at Crissy. I also
can't remember my knees hurting after sailing there the way they do
here after a day of port side pounding through the tide line.
I also think that boards made for the Gorge are not really that
great on the Bay. The wind is stronger and you don't have the huge
wind shadows that you have here. Distances are small and there is
nothing comparable to the Shlog from 3x 'the buoy' back to the beach
after the windline moves offshore. You typically don't really have
to sail upwind or downwind (such as to/from the North Tower).
For comparison sakes when I lived in the Gorge my only board was an
8'0 (150lbs).
Just my 2 cents.
Leo Bragagnolo <leo_jb@yahoo.com-DeleteThis.com> wrote: One of the reasons I was
looking at the board is that the shop selling it says it's really
popular in the Gorge and great in the chop. I figure Gorge
conditions are pretty close to Crissy, though I think the chop at
Crissy is more harsh. Then again, the shop could just be feeding me
a line of shit.
thanks for the input!
Lev Brouk wrote:
Never rode it, but saw it up and close many times... Even saw
Antoine Albeau on it in the french championship, riding 2-3 meter
waves in side-on conditions, quite impressive.
My guess would be that the wide tail would be a pain in the ass at
Crissy in particular, the chop will tire you out. But then, with
that comes a lot of stability for slogging out through the wind
shadow, and I bet it points really well and can take bigger fins
than most waveboards.
Me - I like narrow tails and small fins, so I would never want to
get a board like that. I rode one other board that had a similar
outline, it was a custom, but somewhat similar concept, real wave
rocker, wide and short, very thin. Was really sweet on a wave,
super-easy to plane off, but chop (especially on a bigger wave) was
a problem. Wouldn't be my choice.
Why not just get a more traditional wave board? 56-57 cm wide,
80-85 liters? Many of them are superfast these days. One board I
would consider for the mix of conditions you are describing is the
Fanatic Goya FreeWave 85. Never had that one, but the Goya boards
are my favorite of all production boards I've ever had/ridden.
- Lev
--- Leo Bragagnolo wrote: > It's time to retire my Mistral Screamer
and I found a great deal on > an '04 AHD Attitude wave 58. Seems
like a good fit - bump and jump > board for Crissy and occasional
trip to the coast (I'm 5-10, 165)- , > but of course I'm a little
reluctant to buy a board I've never > ridden. One of the hazards of
buying used boards via the web. > Anyone out there care to venture
an opinion? > > Thanks, > > Leo > >
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