RE: Safety Fin

From: Brennen (dpbrennen@yahoo.com-DeleteThis.com)
Date: Thu Sep 19 2002 - 10:34:57 PDT

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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:34:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brennen <dpbrennen@yahoo.com-DeleteThis.com>
Subject: RE: Safety Fin
To: wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com
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I've used my harness and helmit for drag on different occassions.
The harness trick worked the best because I could more securely
fasten it to the bottom of the board for more efficient drag
(although the arms were noodles by the time I reached shore).
(Assuming a standard fin box) What I've since done is created a
safety fin out of an otherwise useless old fin. I added second
metal tab toward the front of the fin. With the two metal tabs (one
is front and one in back) you just slip it into the fin box and the
drag will seat the fin in the back of the box. And away you go.
daddy@ilovemaggie.co.uk-DeleteThis.com wrote:like the net I use to scoop up the
dead fish out of my tank.

-----Original Message----- From : Topher Gayle To : Multiple
recipients of list WIND_TALK Date : 18 September 2002 21:22:00
Subject : RE: Safety Fin

>I once made a drag chute when my fin dropped off. I tied my helmet
to a >spare line, and tied that to a rear footstrap. It worked,
sort of, but it >created so much drag that I was catapulted off the
board repeatedly. And >the water friction tore the lining out of
the helmet, which was lost for >eternity to mighty Neptune. Not
really a good solution. > >Your design ought to work, though it
probably will not allow much in the way >of going upwind to happen.
I'd make a stainless steel circle, about 4 >inches in diameter, from
pretty stiff wire, and then make a conical nylon >sock for it.
Ideally, the wire circle should have three eyes on its >perimeter.
Three strong bits of thin rope to attach the wire hoop to a >durable
(!!) swivel connection. This is important! The sock will spin
like >crazy once you start to move. This swivel is on the end of a
rope. This >whole assembly should tuck into a harness or PFD pocket
pretty easily, and >attach to the board by simply tying it to a rear
footstrap. > >Let me know if it works. This has been a gadget I've
been wanting to try, >for years. If it works, I'll want one. > >-
Topher Gayle > >> -----Original Message----- >> From:
wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com >>
[mailto:wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com]On Behalf Of Jim Murdy >>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 1:03 PM >> To: Multiple
recipients of list WIND_TALK >> Subject: Re: Safety Fin >> >> >> I
know I've seen all the suggestions...drag the down haul, tie the >>
harness to the tail for emergency fin fixes.....and have never >>
gotten good enough to have to use them, but.... >> >> The thought
just hit me that some thing like a drag chute or sea >> anchor might
work...... say a small ring of plastic ( to keep >> opening open)
with a swivil/velcro leash to attach to board and then >> a small
parachute like thing attached to the plastic ring....even >> with
embelishments like a bit of foam to float it and a weight on >> the
bottom to position it (keeping ring vertical in water to make >> the
chute open easily) a rig like this could be pretty small and >>
foldable. >> >> Jim Murdy >> >> Kirk Lindstrom wrote: >> >> > I
wonder if we could make a \\223safety fin\\223 to carry in a pack or
>> inside > our mast or strapped to the boom? > what if > get a 1
ft >> long by 1\\223 round piece of plastic that you put a fin screw
into? > >> Then if you bust a fin, you put this rod into the fin
box and screw >> it > in from the top > It would not be a great fin,
but it would be >> resistance > It would ALSO fit inside the water
(camel back) bag I >> often carry... > > It would be fun to try
this \\223safety fin\\223 out for >> a test.... > > Kirk (I get
full rights if we patent this!) out > > >> Manuel Paunet wrote: >
> >glad to hear you made it safe > > > >it >> seems to me a good
thing to do when this kind of problem occurs > >> >is to ask someone
to get you a new fin. > >even if the fin box is >> damaged, a
wobbly fin would do the trick better. > >(good to know >> what fin
box your board is using) > > > >aloha > > > >manu > > > > > >> > >
>-----Original Message----- > >From: Ken Poulton >>
[mailto:poulton@zonker.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, >>
September 18, 2002 1:13 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list >>
WIND_TALK > >Subject: Ken goes downwind > > > > > > > >Thanks to >>
everyone who was watching and helping me today! > > > >Ken > > > >>
>\\223Only those who risk going too far can possibly find out how
far >> one can > >go.\\223 > > -- T.S. Eliot > > > > > > >
>============= Tue >> 17 Sep 02 - 3rd - 5.4,4.4/257 (196#) 4:20-8:00
> > > >Too much wind >> for kites as it started gusty and the
channel ramped up to > >30 >> mph! I went out on 5.4 and sailed OPd
for the first hour. This was >> > >great fun - the swell got to 6
feet, very nicely formed, even in >> the > >flood. But eventually,
the wind was too much to handle. I >> had a Mr > >Toad's Wild Ride
back in (whooping all the way) and >> rigged 4.4. > > > >The 4.4
felt great. I was having a fine time >> (and thinking a bit >
>about how to fix the stripped-out second >> screw on my fin). >
>But when I spun out and fell in near the far >> edge of the
channel, > >I found - oops! - no fin! Nada. Bye, bye. >> Gone.
> > > >This was about 6:00. I tried various drag inducers on >> the
tail of the > >board. Kevin came by and helped for a while, as >>
did another guy. Using > >the uphaul on the tail sort of worked - I
>> could get going, but would > >always spin out after about 30
seconds >> and have to set up again. I was > >going towards shore,
but faster >> downwind in the flood. I could see I > >would not get
to the shore >> by sunset. Finally, as I passed Mike (who > >was
the furthest >> downwind) I asked him to go in and call the Coast >
>Guard. I was >> lucky to have just replaced my leaky old wetsuit
with a > >new 5/3 >> at the ASD sale. I decided it was time to also
put on the > >> >neoprene hood I carry for emergencies. Having a
warm suit was good >> > >but the hood on my head really warmed me
up. > > > >Further >> cycles of slogging and spinning out left me
approaching the > >> >bridge pier just west of the shipping channel.
I decided that the >> > >westerly wind and flood tide would carry me
a very long way >> before I got > >to shore, so I climbed up onto
the pier. Once I was >> standing in the > >wooden bumpers, I was
holding my board with the >> uphaul, but I had no way > >to deal
with the rig. So I detached the >> rig and bade it goodbye and >
>pulled the board up and tied it on. >> I think it's just above
high tide, > >but not above the waves. > > >> > >The ladder is
inside the boat bumpers. I had to climb thru and >> jump > >back in
to get to it. Once I climbed up, there was plenty >> of dry space >
>and a place out of the wind. I took out my radio >> and called the
Coast > >Guard. I also put on my flasher, which >> Steve reported
was visible from > >the launch! > > > >A chopper >> showed up only
10 or 20 minutes later. I expected to swim > >out to >> where they
could safely approach, but they surveyed the pier > >and >> placed
their basket on the downwind end. The chopper was dead > >> >steady
in the air - very impressive piloting. I climbed in and >> they >
>raised me up as away we went! What a great ride! > > > >> >They
let me off at the San Carlos airport. I called my wife, Kate, >>
for a > >ride: > > \\223Can you give me ride to 3rd Ave?\\223 > >
\\223Where >> are you?\\223 > > \\223San Carlos Airport.\\223 > >
\\223San Carlos Airport?\\223 > > >> \\223It's where the helicopter
left me.\\223 > > \\223The helicopter?\\223 > > >> \\223Yeah, they
picked me up off the bridge.\\223 > > \\223The bridge?\\223 > > >>
\\223Yeah, I had a little problem...\\223 > > > >And even before she
got >> there, Steve showed up to give me a ride! > >I later
realized I >> might have passed a message thru the Coast Guard >
>radio. > > > >> >And when we arrived at 3rd around 9:00, Dave had
packed up my 5.4 >> and > >was waiting by my car! What a guy! > >
> >So thanks to >> everyone for all the help! What a great bunch of
people. > > > > > >> >Plusses and minuses for the overly
analytical: > > > > -- >> inadequate maintainance (stripped fin
screw) > > + carried hood > > >> + wore a really warm wetsuit > > +
asked for help - at first mostly >> letting others know I am
floundering > > + told Mike to call Coast >> Guard > > + carried
flasher > > ++ carried radio > > - failed to get >> my 50' line out
in time to save my sail > > ++ got myself out of the >> water > > -
but not in the right place > > > > -- > best regards > >> Kirk
Lindstrom > Please Try My Online Store: >>
http://home.netcom.com/~kirk_69/Gifts.html >> >> [V-Card file
jim.murdy.vcf deleted by listprocessor] >> > >

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