RE: Wave rules

From: Brad James (bjames@exponent.com-DeleteThis)
Date: Thu Aug 17 2000 - 10:16:03 PDT


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From: Brad James <bjames@exponent.com-DeleteThis>
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Subject: RE: Wave rules
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:16:03 -0700
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I disagree, and I think you'll find most experienced wave sailors will
disagree too.... The person coming in has the most "degrees of freedom" -
you can go left, right, or out in front, much more manueverable, plus it's
very easy to bottom turn around someone and continue to go your own way.

In contrast, the person going out is often slogging or maybe they're trying
to sneak out through a channel thats a little upwind, or trying get downwind
to avoid getting smacked at the peak.

It's all about being considerate. I'm all for eating it going out in
non-threatening conditions so someone can have a better ride!

Brad

-----Original Message-----
From: tmurguz@amre.com-DeleteThis [mailto:tmurguz@amre.com-DeleteThis]
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 9:11 AM
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Subject: RE: Wave rules

1. Going out has right of way over someone coming in. (when coming in, you
have much more manueverability and less risk of getting munched than someone
going out, so it's polite to give way)

I do not think this is true, and recall this same discussion about a year
ago.
If a sailor on a wave is going down the line, and the outbound sailor cuts
off
his down the line progress, ending the wave, the outbound sailor has
barneyed.

If the premise of wavesailing is to ride waves, then the surf rules apply.
The
surf rule is simple; avoid the person on the wave. They have enough to deal
with already, and a person going out has more degrees of freedom than the
person
on a wave whose ideal path is dictated by the wave (and the kelp in late
summer). the sailor going out can sail off the wind, pinch upwind, stall,
chicken jibe, tack and do whatever else is possible to avoid the person
already
on the wave.



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