Return-Path: <eeiseman@worldnet.att.net-DeleteThis> Received: from opus.labs.agilent.com (root@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis [15.0.168.176]) by jr.labs.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 AgilentLabs Workstation) with ESMTP id NAA09061 for <wind_talk_ls@jr.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis>; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgbas1.agilent.com (msgbas1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.58]) by opus.labs.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 AgilentLabs Workstation) with ESMTP id NAA13660 for <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis>; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by msgbas1.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88BE33E for <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis>; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:45:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from default ([12.72.89.132]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20000724204500.XVCZ6710.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@default> for <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis>; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 20:45:00 +0000 Message-ID: <001901bff5ad$6dc5f360$8459480c@default> From: "Erik Eiseman" <eeiseman@worldnet.att.net-DeleteThis> To: <wind_talk@opus.labs.agilent.com-DeleteThis> References: <D36440DD7F4FD4119F1000D0B77CF8088E9CF8@sabahqmail.saba.com-DeleteThis> Subject: Re: Kite sailing concerns - god help us all Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:26:19 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600
While up in hood river I noticed that they had a temporary ban on kiting at
the event site. Last weekend there were almost equal if not more kites on
the water vs. sailors. To me it seemed fairly confusing where you could mix
with the kite's. They seemed to be up wind, north, with sailors more down
wind. It's also tough to see the boarders among waves. the kite doesn't
depict where the person is very well. Is there a way to find out how this
works in other places. I understand the idea full well about giving the
kite his space but it seemed like nearly every reach I was forced to do an
extended downwind shot to "give extra space", it may have just been my fear.
I have been flying a trainer kite and hope to try the sport soon but if any
one has information beyond "giving lots of space" I would love to hear it.
thanks,
Erik
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From: "Jeff Milum" <jmilum@saba.com-DeleteThis>
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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: Kite sailing concerns - god help us all
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> As cool as kite sailing is, it's just a matter of time until there are
> serious incidents.
>
> The analogy that they sail differently (snowboards vs. skiers) doesn't go
> far enough because additionally they just take up a lot more airspace.
You
> can probably have 10 windsurfers sailing in the same patch of water that 2
> kiters (at most) could sail on. For a lower level kiter, it's even worse.
> As the numbers of kiters increase this will cause some serious problems.
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> Also currently most kiters are advanced windsurfers so they understand and
> respect windsurfers. Going forward we can expect an uneducated, and more
> "extreme" element from the wakeboarding and surfing crowd who all see this
> as a "cool" alternative to windsurfing. I suspect that some of the same
us
> vs. them snowboard vs. skiing mentality will pop up, but this time the
> snowboarders will require 10 times more room and have a dangerous weapon
in
> their hand.
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> That being said I really want one for light air!
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> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>As cool as kite sailing is, it's just a matter of =
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> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The analogy that they sail differently (snowboards =
> vs. skiers) doesn't go far enough because additionally they just take =
> up a lot more airspace. You can probably have 10 windsurfers =
> sailing in the same patch of water that 2 kiters (at most) could sail =
> on. For a lower level kiter, it's even worse. As the =
> numbers of kiters increase this will cause some serious =
> problems.</FONT></P>
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> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Also currently most kiters are advanced windsurfers =
> so they understand and respect windsurfers. Going forward we can =
> expect an uneducated, and more "extreme" element from the =
> wakeboarding and surfing crowd who all see this as a "cool" =
> alternative to windsurfing. I suspect that some of the same us =
> vs. them snowboard vs. skiing mentality will pop up, but this time the =
> snowboarders will require 10 times more room and have a dangerous =
> weapon in their hand.</FONT></P>
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