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My wife and I are from San Jose. So we'd prefer to find a site to the
South.
Thanks
- Topher Gayle, member of SFBA
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Subject: SFO Mitigation - New Windsurf Site?
> SFO is starting to look around for ways to mitigate the impact on
windsurfing
> if their runways are approved (they are assuming they will prevail). I
have
> heard rumors of them researching sites both north and south of the
airport.
> Rumor is that they want ideally to do mitigation within the boundaries of
San
> Francisco. A site at India Basin on the north shore of Hunters Point is
> apparantly in the mix. Has anyone ever investigated this location? All of
my
> past research into possible sites has focused south of the airport.
>
> As I understand it, we are entitled to both oppose the runway and to have
> mitigation if the runways proceed. On the one hand, we need to be cautious
> that comments on mitigation plans do not appear as a concession that we
are
> willing to give up on halting the runways, but on the other hand we also
need
> to make comments on the mitigation plans so that the plans are beneficial
in
> the case that they are ultimately implemented. As it stands SF, SFO and
BCDC
> have no clue what makes a good windsurfing site besides wind.
>
> I think we need to let SFO and BCDC know all of the criteria that make a
good
> windsurfing site for all levels of windsurfer. I am forwarding to BCDC
info
> from the 301 Airport Boulevard planning process which includes a summary
of
> the reasons why Coyote is irreplacable (high capacity, amenities,
protected
> from current, good wind, shallow areas for beginners, channel and open bay
> access for advanced, etc.). I was also planning on sending BCDC a list of
> general criteria which would included the following:
>
> - Water deep enough to not bottom out the fin
> - Water shallow enough near shore beginners to touch bottom
> - Firm bottom vs. muddy bottom to allow carrying 40 lbs. of gear out of
> shallows
> - Lack of debris (broken glass, re-bar, old pilings, etc.)
> - Steady wind
> - Wind that is not offshore for safety (ideally side shore)
> - Consistent wind - high number of sailing days
> - Down wind return - a friendly place to land when pushed downwind
> - Moderate currents near shore
> - Easy Access to Site
> - Easy Access to Water
>
> Any other?
>
> Another key issue is who will be displaced from Coyote Point if it is
lost.
> Are more sailors coming from the north or the south? A mitigation location
> (if there is one) should be located closer to those displaced. Can we
amend
> the online survey to include info on where people live or work? or maybe
the
> real question is where the travel to Coyote Point from regardless of
whether
> it is work or home?
>
> Peter
>
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