Received: from opus.hpl.hp.com by jr.hpl.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.24/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1) id AA139131516; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:18:37 -0700 Return-Path: <jmilum@saba.com-DeleteThis> Received: from hplms26.hpl.hp.com by opus.hpl.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.24/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1) id AA142441515; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:18:36 -0700 Received: from sabafs.saba.com (mail.saba.com [208.197.163.68]) by hplms26.hpl.hp.com (8.9.1a/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id KAA06048 for <wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis>; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sabafs.saba.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <L75P8MV7>; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:15:09 -0700 Message-Id: <950B544CDA48D211BB1700104BC94B8933CF9F@sabafs.saba.com-DeleteThis> From: Jeff Milum <jmilum@saba.com-DeleteThis> To: "'wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis'" <wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis> Subject: RE: People's Court, Please? Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:15:02 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I'm not sure I understand the situation but in my opinion:
- Upwind sailor (who is ligitimately) on a wave always has right to go down
the line.
- Downwind sailor needs to make an effort not to interfere.
- 15ft is not an unreasonable amount of room and in crowded breaks is more
than enough (I sailed Hookipa last week and people come within 5ft of you
there).
- On a wave as unpredictable as wadell I don't think you can claim that the
wave is a left instead of a right.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Galvan [mailto:kasplash@crl.com-DeleteThis]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 7:34 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: People's Court, Please?
On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, A M wrote:
> The following happened to some guys I know at Waddel recently.
>
> Two sailors, L and R, simultaneously picked up a nice swell.
> They were 50 yds apart at this point.
> Sailor L began to ride it left, upwind. Sailor R, who had
> been looking upwind to acquire the swell, turned to go
> down the line. As he did he saw sailor L riding the wave
> left, and he looped below Sailor L, came back up the face,
> and rode as far as he could down the line. R came to about
> 15 ft of L as he crossed under L.
>
> Sailor L also turned down the line, and rode out the wave without
> further incident.
>
> Sailor L is the better sailor by far.
>
> In a subsequent beachside discussion, L claimed to be an aggrieved
> party because:
>
> 1) "These waves are predominantly left"
> 2) "I was in a more critical section."
> 3) "You came too close to me."
>
> Sailor R countered:
>
> 1) "If the wave was a left and you had a critical section, why
> did you give it up and go down the line too?"
> 2) "As the upwind rider you should let a down the line guy go
> by and not make a fuss about it."
> 3) I gave you enough room.
>
> Who's right, if anybody? Is crossing under as R did a no-no?
L is whining.
He got freaked by R's unexpected move.
He was not interfered with in any way.
There was room for both, and they both went where they wanted.
(at least that's what the report says)
I give R points for creativity and decisiveness.
L can go sit in his van until he learns how to share.
kasplash@crl.com-DeleteThis
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