Received: from opus.hpl.hp.com by jr.hpl.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.24/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1) id AA111469196; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:19:57 -0700 Return-Path: <craig.wiesner@lmco.com-DeleteThis> Received: from hplms26.hpl.hp.com by opus.hpl.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.24/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1) id AA266459191; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:19:51 -0700 Received: from mailgw3a.lmco.com (mailgw3a.lmco.com [192.35.35.24]) by hplms26.hpl.hp.com (8.9.1a/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id IAA16948 for <wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emss01g01.ems.lmco.com ([129.197.181.54]) by mailgw3a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15737 for <wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Return-Receipt-To: craig.wiesner@lmco.com-DeleteThis Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) id <0FAY00D01IE32T@lmco.com-DeleteThis> for wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emss01i01.ems.lmco.com ([129.197.181.68]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) with ESMTP id <0FAY00335IDZ5O@lmco.com-DeleteThis> for wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by emss01i01.ems.lmco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <J577MGV7>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:15:31 -0700 Content-Return: allowed Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:15:05 -0700 From: "Wiesner, Craig" <craig.wiesner@lmco.com-DeleteThis> Subject: RE: Board Suggestions/Right of Way To: "'wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis'" <wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis> Message-Id: <BA719E2A241FD11193460000F80212DFFC55A2@emss01m12.ems.lmco.com-DeleteThis> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
I am glad you brought up the right of way. I didn't have too much problem
while riding the swells as there were so many I could change course and then
resume.......but what started pissing me off is when I am heading out
looking for that sweet peak to launch from. I spot the curl, bear-off,
build speed, head toward peak and give the caution look down wind and there
is some kook right in my landing pad, especially if I have to bail-out. I
try to give guys room to maneuver on days like yesterday.
Ed, in my opinion this is only venting as windsurfers usually do what ever
they want to despite "rules". The ones who buy into right of way rules are
the ones who would do it any way.
And while I am at it whos f***ing dog is that! That canine is annoying.
Barking and shaking-off all over people.
-Mr. L
> ----------
> From: Ed Scott
> Reply To: wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 April 1999 10:03 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Board Suggestions/Right of Way
>
> Boards
>
> Given that this season has been SOOOO windy thus far, I wonder if anyone
> has any suggestions on a board in the 8'2" - 8'4" range for those 3.3-4.4
> days. Requirements are: 1) manueverability/looseness; 2) tracking in big
> conditions; 3) sufficient control especially while airborne; 4)
> durability; 5) a little (not too much) flotation; 6) some amount of
> rocker; 7) slight no-nose. I'm currently sailing an 8'6" glass Pintail
> (classic shape) in these conditions which becomes a little squirrelly in
> the 4.4 and below conditions when it gets big.
>
> Open to suggestions on: 1) construction/materials; 2) shapes; 3)
> manufacturers. I'm thinking along the lines of a small Enduro (I
> currently have 8'8" which I will probably replace with an 8'6" in the
> no-to-distant future), Rutger, Ward Coffey or Stretch. I'll probably
> steer clear of most production boards, but opinions on those are welcome
> as well - even on those stinkin' plastic boards if you're religious about
> it. Multi-fin/bonzer is a possiblility. Glass is probably preferred,
> but let's hear from the epoxy crowd in this size - is it too light for
> good control in the gusts? All opinions welcome. Uses include places
> like Third, the Gorge, Maui on the outside, and the Coast when it gets
> big. I'm 185# and am fairly hard on my equipment.
>
> Right of Way
>
> Given all the slashing and bashing in the channel these days, it seems
> like we should have different right of way rules for this situation that
> your traditional straight line b&j sailing and wave sailing. I say in
> this situation, that the approaching straight-line sailor should give ROW
> to slower sailors who are manuevering on the swells. While I look
> usually before initiating a series of bottom and top turns, if you do
> more than a couple, sufficient time passes such that an approaching
> sailor on a straight reach who was formerly not a problem will shortly
> come right up on top of you. I don't think it's reasonable to expect the
> manuevering sailor to keep looking since it's obvious what he's doing,
> and the approaching sailor can easily either go sufficiently up or
> downwind to avoid the manuevering sailor.
>
> I think many of us are already practicing what I'm talking about, but I
> wonder if we can formalize it in some way. I think we need a hybrid
> wave/slalom/b&j rule, unless one already exists that I'm not aware of.
>
> Flames welcome.
>
> -Ed
>
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