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to be quite honest I sailed 3rd, Crissy, Waddel and Pistol before I
could really jibe. I never had to be rescued. I pushed myself, but
watched my ass. Being able to water start really really really well is
the most important thing in any of those situations. (Waddell and
Pistol aside maybe - I took some lumps there). But hey, what doesn't
kill us makes us stronger.
Go to 3rd - it is a great place to learn how to jibe. Watch the tide.
Make sure you can waterstart and sail upwind. Sail with friends.
Ed Scott wrote:
> >> Parents soon discover that there's only so much real world
> >> experience you can impart to another human being. The rest a
> person
> >> has to learn himself in the school of hard knocks. If sailing
> Third
> >> without the ability to jibe AT ALL is your idea of fun, go for it.
> >> I guess you just fall and turn around and hope you have enough
> >> strength to return to shore.
> >
> >Ed, can you read that again? Do you realize how incredibly
> >patronizing it is? I'm trying to be reasonable about this but you're
>
> >not making it easy.
>
> Yeah, you're right, I'm sorry. I guess all I was trying to relate was
> my
> personal experience, and it's difficult to feel like you do that
> sometimes. More power to you if you're having fun and you are sailing
>
> safely.
>
> -Ed
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