Received: from hplms26.hpl.hp.com by opus.hpl.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.8/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1) id AA05107; Tue, 3 May 1994 10:22:37 -0700 Return-Path: <alans@berlioz.nsc.com-DeleteThis> Received: from gatekeeper.nsc.com by hplms26.hpl.hp.com with SMTP (1.36.108.4/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1S) id AA05713; Tue, 3 May 1994 10:23:56 -0700 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by gatekeeper.nsc.com (5.65/fma-120691) with SMTP; id AA09110 for wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis; Tue, 3 May 94 10:19:05 -0700 Received: from berlioz.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA21517 for James.Paugh@eng.sun.com-DeleteThis; Tue, 3 May 94 10:19:04 -0700 Received: from jukebox.nsc.com by berlioz.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06499; Tue, 3 May 94 10:19:03 PDT Date: Tue, 3 May 94 10:19:03 PDT From: alans@berlioz.nsc.com-DeleteThis (Alan Segervall) Message-Id: <9405031719.AA06499@berlioz.nsc.com-DeleteThis> To: James.Paugh@eng.sun.com-DeleteThis, wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis Subject: Re: Windsurf towing was: Re: Sat PA Report In-Reply-To: Mail from 'James.Paugh@eng.sun.com-DeleteThis (Jim Paugh)' dated: Mon, 2 May 1994 13:45:29 -0700
Better yet, tie the rope to your harness hook. That way you can hook in
and transmit all the force straight thru your harness lines. I towed a
friend in from the channel at 3rd last year and it worked great!.
I always cary 30' of nylon cord and a couple of tie down straps with me.
I keep it wound round a 6" piece of wood with notches on the ends so it's
easy to uncoil (dealing with a spaghetti knot in a rescue situation is not
fun). One end of the cord is tied to the wood which makes it easy to toss
over to your friend. I've found it works best if the person being rescued
ties his end to his universal joint, and as I said above the other end to
your harness hook.
30' may sound like a lot, but it 1) allows you to be far enough away from
your friend that you do not get tangled up when water starting, 2) stretches
really well, 3) reduces the angle that the rope runs at so you can pull more
efficiently.
It's difficult hanging on to all your junk while you are being washed
around in the big bath tub! As you break stuff down, strap it onto your
board as go.
Over the years I have rescued a few folks (including myself!). Carrying a
rescue kit is a really good idea.
Alan Segervall
>>
>> A friend of mine towed a broken down windsurfer in at the Gorge, and
>> recommended tieing the tow rope to the back of your harness (through
>> the seat). This way, it won't have the tendency to jerk your board,
>> and catapult you over the sail. This allows you to hook in, and put
>> the load through your harness directly to the sail. Still not easy (my
>> friends sailing day was over after towing in this sailor), but it makes
>> it much easier than tieing the line to the mast base or foot straps.
>> The stretchy uphaul lines are a great idea, even if you tie one to a
>> tow rope, to offer some give on the tow line.
>>
>> ~Jim Paugh
>>
>>
>> > From listserv@jr.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis Mon May 2 13:01 PDT 1994
>> > Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 12:59:36 -0700
>> > Comment: Windsurfing Discussion Mailing List
>> > Originator: wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis
>> > Version: 5.41 -- Copyright (c) 1991/92, Anastasios Kotsikonas
>> > From: Matt Yamamoto <matt@hpisod9.cup.hp.com-DeleteThis>
>> > To: Multiple recipients of list <wind_talk@opus.hpl.hp.com-DeleteThis>
>> > Subject: Re: Sat PA Report
>> >
>> > > And Matt went to Crissy to drive and extra 2 hrs and
>> > > go a sail size smaller.....maybe.
>> >
>> > Conditions at Crissy on Saturday were kind of up and down but in my
>> > opinion worth the drive to get some higher wind and chop. I rigged my
>> > 5.6 and sailed my ASD 8'8" CS from 4:30 to 7:15. I was mostly powered
>> > to way overpowered. A 5.1 would have worked fine. As others have
>> > recently reported, the wind kept shifting around. When I first got
>> > there, the wind was strongest near shore. At about 5:30 when the wind
>> > peaked, the wind was strongest near the North tower. There was some
>> > good ramps near the launch and mostly flat water outside.
>> >
>> > On my way up to Crissy, I stopped by the point just north of the main
>> > beach at Coyote to check the wind and had an interesting discussion with
>> > one of the people fishing there. Apparently some of the windsurfers
>> > have been sailing very close to where they have been fishing and their
>> > lines have been broken by passing windsurfers. Needless to say, they do
>> > not appreciate this. Some have resorted to throwing rocks at
>> > windsurfers. I agreed to pass along their concerns to other
>> > windsurfers. They asked that we not sail within 100 yards of any
>> > fishing areas - a reasonable request. The fishing areas I know of at
>> > sailing sites would include the pier at Candlestick, the pier at Oyster
>> > Pt, the point between Oyster Pt and Tigers and the point just north of
>> > the main beach at Coyote.
>> >
>> > On Sunday I sailed Coyote. At 4PM it was strong, but gusty 4.5 - 5.0
>> > conditions outside. After about 1/2 hour, I found some guy about a mile
>> > out with a broken mast. I offered to tow him in. He started to de-rig
>> > and after he got the boom and mast pieces out of the sail and started
>> > gathering his stuff on top of the board, we both noticed that his sail
>> > was no where to be seen. We looked around for a few minutes and saw no
>> > sign of it. We concluded that it must have sank. I offered to hold his
>> > board for him while he dove for it but he was wearing a PFD and couldn't
>> > get down. We abandoned the search - scratch one North 2 piece aluminum
>> > mast and a fairly new North Prisma 6.5 (and I thought I had bad luck).
>> >
>> > We then prepared for the long towing session. We tied our two uphauls
>> > together and attached them from mast base to mast base. Fortunately the
>> > wind had picked up a little and filled in to shore. The stretchy
>> > uphauls made ideal towing ropes as they gave a little when starting and
>> > sailing through the chop. At first I tried hooking in to the harness
>> > but the wind was too gusty and I kept getting catapulted before I could
>> > unhook. I finally gave up on the harness. Initially I headed directly
>> > across the wind toward the main beach. The water was very choppy and we
>> > were making slow progress. After a couple hundred yards, it became
>> > apparent that with the strong flood we would not make the main beach. I
>> > altered course and headed off the wind about 30 degrees toward the
>> > harbor. Heading off the wind slightly was much faster than trying to go
>> > directly cross wind. After about 40 minutes, we finally reached the
>> > last beach next to the harbor.
>> >
>> > My observations from this experience:
>> >
>> > On self rescue:
>> > - Never *ever* let go of your sail when de-rigging
>> >
>> > On towing:
>> > - Uphauls make great towing lines
>> > - Setting up the tow line from mast base to mast base works well
>> > - Don't hook into your harness if the wind is gusty or the water
>> > is choppy. Just take several Advil when you get in - towing
>> > without using your harness is very hard on the arms and lower back.
>> > - If at all possible head off the wind when towing - this
>> > is much faster. This probably applies to paddling in to shore too.
>> >
>> > -matt
>> >
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Mon Dec 10 2001 - 02:27:20 PST